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		<title>AnarchistiCookie at 18:29, 8 July 2016</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;.&lt;/del&gt;In 1982 Loren St. Clair, and a friend by the name of Neils Dugan and Spud Boy had an idea to start a band. The name was going to be BVD, short for bass, vocals, &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&amp;amp; &lt;/del&gt;drums. By the time the band formed late that year Neils was no longer going to be in it and the name changed to Political Justice? (Yes, with a question mark). So Loren and Spud recruited Loren&#039;s brother Brian to play drums. The three started playing in the St. Clair&#039;s basement and quickly came up with a hand full of songs. Realizing that the band was limited without a guitar player, they got one of their friends Scott Spalo to play with them. By summer of 1983 Scott was gone and  Wes Kidd joined.&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;……………………………………………………………………………………........................................................................&lt;/del&gt;After recording a number of basement tape recordings in 1983, they wanted to make a better tape to get some shows from the main promoter in Chicago (Sean Duffy / Last Rites). They went to a shit hole studio in Naperville, IL where fellow suburban bands like Denied Remark’s and the Protagonists went to record. Out of it came a 6 song muddy pile of crap titled - Three Things. They did get some good shows and a great review and radio time from Tim Yohannan at Maximum Rock and Roll Magazine. MRR even keeps promoting the band in the 21ST Century - &lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;see the link and scroll down to tape 200 &lt;/del&gt;http://www.luver.com/maxrnrplaylists4.&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;html………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………By &lt;/del&gt;the end of ’84 the band also recorded a 7 inch EP called – Stating The Truths And Healing The Wounds, which came out on a Downers Grove, IL label called Landmind Records. The pressing plant held up the release for a long time and it finally saw the light of day by fall of 1985. Between the recording of the 7 inch and it’s release Wes started playing second guitar for Rights Of The Accused. He played in both bands until the break up of Political Justice?&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….&lt;/del&gt;Political Justice? opened for some great bands (battalion of saints, tsol, faction, urge overkill, target moscow, rights of the accused, happy toons, blatant dissent, and more). Brian and Wes went on to join and form other bands.&lt;del style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..&lt;/del&gt;Political Justice? broke up in early 1986.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;In &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;[[&lt;/ins&gt;1982&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;]] &#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;Loren St. Clair&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&#039;&#039;&#039;&lt;/ins&gt;, and a friend by the name of Neils Dugan and Spud Boy had an idea to start a band. The name was going to be BVD, short for bass, vocals, &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;and &lt;/ins&gt;drums. By the time the band formed late that year Neils was no longer going to be in it and the name changed to Political Justice? (Yes, with a question mark). So Loren and Spud recruited Loren&#039;s brother Brian to play drums. The three started playing in the St. Clair&#039;s basement and quickly came up with a hand full of songs. Realizing that the band was limited without a guitar player, they got one of their friends Scott Spalo to play with them. By summer of 1983 Scott was gone and  Wes Kidd joined.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;After recording a number of basement tape recordings in 1983, they wanted to make a better tape to get some shows from the main promoter in Chicago (Sean Duffy / Last Rites). They went to a shit hole studio in Naperville, IL where fellow suburban bands like Denied Remark’s and the Protagonists went to record. Out of it came a 6 song muddy pile of crap titled - Three Things. They did get some good shows and a great review and radio time from Tim Yohannan at Maximum Rock and Roll Magazine. MRR even keeps promoting the band in the 21ST Century - &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;click [&lt;/ins&gt;http://www.luver.com/maxrnrplaylists4.&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;html here] and scroll down to tape 200.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;By &lt;/ins&gt;the end of ’84 the band also recorded a 7 inch EP called – Stating The Truths And Healing The Wounds, which came out on a Downers Grove, IL label called Landmind Records. The pressing plant held up the release for a long time and it finally saw the light of day by fall of 1985. Between the recording of the 7 inch and it’s release Wes started playing second guitar for Rights Of The Accused. He played in both bands until the break up of Political Justice?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Political Justice? opened for some great bands (battalion of saints, tsol, faction, urge overkill, target moscow, rights of the accused, happy toons, blatant dissent, and more). Brian and Wes went on to join and form other bands.  &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Political Justice? broke up in early 1986.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Brian07302 at 05:53, 21 October 2007</title>
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;.In 1982 Loren St. Clair, and a friend by the name of Neils Dugan and Spud Boy had an idea to start a band. The name was going to be BVD, short for bass, vocals, &amp;amp; drums. By the time the band formed late that year Neils was no longer going to be in it and the name changed to Political Justice? (Yes, with a question mark). So Loren and Spud recruited Loren&amp;#039;s brother Brian to play drums. The three started playing in the St. Clair&amp;#039;s basement and quickly came up with a hand full of songs. Realizing that the band was limited without a guitar player, they got one of their friends Scott Spalo to play with them. By summer of 1983 Scott was gone and  Wes Kidd joined.……………………………………………………………………………………........................................................................After recording a number of basement tape recordings in 1983, they wanted to make a better tape to get some shows from the main promoter in Chicago (Sean Duffy / Last Rites). They went to a shit hole studio in Naperville, IL where fellow suburban bands like Denied Remark’s and the Protagonists went to record. Out of it came a 6 song muddy pile of crap titled - Three Things. They did get some good shows and a great review and radio time from Tim Yohannan at Maximum Rock and Roll Magazine. MRR even keeps promoting the band in the 21ST Century - see the link and scroll down to tape 200 http://www.luver.com/maxrnrplaylists4.html………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………By the end of ’84 the band also recorded a 7 inch EP called – Stating The Truths And Healing The Wounds, which came out on a Downers Grove, IL label called Landmind Records. The pressing plant held up the release for a long time and it finally saw the light of day by fall of 1985. Between the recording of the 7 inch and it’s release Wes started playing second guitar for Rights Of The Accused. He played in both bands until the break up of Political Justice?………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….Political Justice? opened for some great bands (battalion of saints, tsol, faction, urge overkill, target moscow, rights of the accused, happy toons, blatant dissent, and more). Brian and Wes went on to join and form other bands.………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..Political Justice? broke up in early 1986.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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